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Re: No Polution

Postby bobodu » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:14 pm

Sure he will become wealthy. Like the top dogs at Fiskers Automotive, Solyndra,A123 Systems,Amonix,Beacon Power Corp,EnerDel, ad neaseum
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:36 pm

Yeah sure. I know that mine may not work, but even if its a hit and a miss, i still learned something and i can use this knowledge on possible something else. Its not all about the money
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:41 pm

bobodu wrote:It emits calcium bicarbonate ?????

OMG...you will be putting millions and millions of tons of CARBON into the soil and calcium bicarbonate is what cause hard water!!!!! :o :o :o
There is a consensus that millions and millions of tons of calcium bicarbonate will turn everyone's pips into clogged arteries !!! Think of the poor children who just want a drink of water.


No i wont be putting it into the soil or water. This idea will mostly probobly be used for small engines or generators. I doubt it will get anywhere farther if that. And thee calcium bicarbonate that will be put into the soil or whatever will get washed away and cannot become any hard water or erode anything uless massive piles of it occer at over a very long period of time
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Re: No Polution

Postby bobodu » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:49 pm

But what about the bigfoot.....think of the children !!!! :o :o
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Re: No Polution

Postby Bill Shafer » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:29 pm

Would be something to checkout. I have always said you never know if it will work if you don't try.

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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Bill Shafer wrote:Would be something to checkout. I have always said you never know if it will work if you don't try.

Don't mind bo. He gets grumpy if he doesn't talk to Carl every week.


Thank you and yeah i can tell haha
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Re: No Polution

Postby Mek-a-nik » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:37 am

Chris wrote:Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

I'm a little bit behind in my reading, bringing this up again, and maybe a little off track. Just wanted to say that I think they rot out after the cat because the material is heavier (thicker) in the front of the system and the moisture inside the pipe(s) doesn't evaporate as well further back because the system is cooler towards the rear.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:54 am

Mek-a-nik wrote:
Chris wrote:Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

I'm a little bit behind in my reading, bringing this up again, and maybe a little off track. Just wanted to say that I think they rot out after the cat because the material is heavier (thicker) in the front of the system and the moisture inside the pipe(s) doesn't evaporate as well further back because the system is cooler towards the rear.


Well its not going to evaporate. What i have found after further research is that the co2 inside the screens will turn into the will basically just break down inside the screen and very little of it will ccome out and if it does come out it iwll come out as white powedery stuff, so there is really veryr miniman h20 in this to get vapourized
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Re: No Polution

Postby Chris » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:13 am

Mek-a-nik wrote:
Chris wrote:Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

I'm a little bit behind in my reading, bringing this up again, and maybe a little off track. Just wanted to say that I think they rot out after the cat because the material is heavier (thicker) in the front of the system and the moisture inside the pipe(s) doesn't evaporate as well further back because the system is cooler towards the rear.


There was something that one of my mentors told me about back when i was first starting out. He was a pretty smart guy and had an understanding of not just the mechanics of things but the science & chemistry behind it. We were talking about catalytic converters one day. Back then, in the early eighties, they were kind of a new thing. He didn't have a very high opinion of them because he felt that it was just swapping one environmental problem for another.

He asked if i had ever noticed that sharp acrid smell coming from the exhaust. I said yes, and he went on to explain that all fuel has some degree of sulphur in it. An unintended consequense of the catalytic process was that it combined this sulphur with oxygen to form sulphur dioxide. Combine that with water vapor and you get a weak sulphuric acid.

Years later the whole "acid rain" thing came to light.

Most recently, they've been redesigning the diesel truck engines to run on ultra low sulphur diesel fuel and adding catalytic converters for that reason. If the sulphur isn't in the fuel in the first place then sulphuric acid pumping out of the tailpipe won't be a problem.

That was the long answer.

Short answer ...... you're right about the water vapor condensing but it's got a little something extra in it that makes it corrosive.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:16 am

Chris wrote:
Mek-a-nik wrote:
Chris wrote:Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

I'm a little bit behind in my reading, bringing this up again, and maybe a little off track. Just wanted to say that I think they rot out after the cat because the material is heavier (thicker) in the front of the system and the moisture inside the pipe(s) doesn't evaporate as well further back because the system is cooler towards the rear.


There was something that one of my mentors told me about back when i was first starting out. He was a pretty smart guy and had an understanding of not just the mechanics of things but the science & chemistry behind it. We were talking about catalytic converters one day. Back then, in the early eighties, they were kind of a new thing. He didn't have a very high opinion of them because he felt that it was just swapping one environmental problem for another.

He asked if i had ever noticed that sharp acrid smell coming from the exhaust. I said yes, and he went on to explain that all fuel has some degree of sulphur in it. An unintended consequense of the catalytic process was that it combined this sulphur with oxygen to form sulphur dioxide. Combine that with water vapor and you get a weak sulphuric acid.

Years later the whole "acid rain" thing came to light.

Most recently, they've been redesigning the diesel truck engines to run on ultra low sulphur diesel fuel and adding catalytic converters for that reason. If the sulphur isn't in the fuel in the first place then sulphuric acid pumping out of the tailpipe won't be a problem.

That was the long answer.

Short answer ...... you're right about the water vapor condensing but it's got a little something extra in it that makes it corrosive.


Sadly, what i have made will not work for diesel but i will robobly make one for deisel too
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