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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:56 pm

What the crap did i just read? Chris and Jim just answered my question. I just had a simple idea. Im not saying this will have a big impact but its just ba simple idea and of course its not just goign to be a tube with 2 screens its going to look diferent, thats just the simple design and idea that it will be built off of.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:08 pm

Chris wrote:
TheWingnutSquid wrote:I am not getting your metaphor... are you trying to be sarcastic?


Pay no regard ......when you say "green" they see red. ;)

It sounds like you might have the basis of a good idea from a theoretical point of view. Getting something from theory into practice is another story altogether. Automotive engines produce a complex mix of gasses even after the catalytic process converts CO to CO2. There's a certain amount of sulphur dioxide in the exhaust which when combined with water vapor combines to form dilute sulphuric acid. Then ... that helps to contribute to the acid rain problem

Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

The other thing you're up against is the cost issue.

Anyway, if you have an idea that you're interested in persuing keep it simple and start with the basics. Build a working model of something that will convert pure CO2. Once you've proven the basic theory to be correct then start working through the technical and cost issues one at a time. You might find that it wouldn't work on a car but would with a coal burning plant.

You never know where an idea will take you till you try to put it into practice.


And as i have done more research i have also found that it will not create water vapour it will create water and a nosoluble whit powder-ish thing called calcium bicarbonate which i am working on the solution for which should not be too entirely difficult, so the acid rain problem is nothing to worry about
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Re: No Polution

Postby Chris » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:07 pm

TheWingnutSquid wrote:
Chris wrote:
TheWingnutSquid wrote:I am not getting your metaphor... are you trying to be sarcastic?


Pay no regard ......when you say "green" they see red. ;)

It sounds like you might have the basis of a good idea from a theoretical point of view. Getting something from theory into practice is another story altogether. Automotive engines produce a complex mix of gasses even after the catalytic process converts CO to CO2. There's a certain amount of sulphur dioxide in the exhaust which when combined with water vapor combines to form dilute sulphuric acid. Then ... that helps to contribute to the acid rain problem

Ever wonder why the exhaust system tends rot out AFTER after the cat ?

The other thing you're up against is the cost issue.

Anyway, if you have an idea that you're interested in persuing keep it simple and start with the basics. Build a working model of something that will convert pure CO2. Once you've proven the basic theory to be correct then start working through the technical and cost issues one at a time. You might find that it wouldn't work on a car but would with a coal burning plant.

You never know where an idea will take you till you try to put it into practice.


And as i have done more research i have also found that it will not create water vapour it will create water and a nosoluble whit powder-ish thing called calcium bicarbonate which i am working on the solution for which should not be too entirely difficult, so the acid rain problem is nothing to worry about


You'll get better results if you stay focused on the task at hand. (The acid rain issue is already being dealt with by adopting standards for ultra low sulphur fuel.)

There's a saying that " Talk is cheap but action is precious !".

What i've found is that quite often there's a pretty big disconnect between theory and actually getting something into practice in the real world ... but ... there's a reward for the man who can actually pull it off.

Stop talking and start doing my friend !

Even if you don't succeed, the journey of discovery is oftentimes more rewarding than the end result.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:42 pm

Thank you very much, sir, i do appreciate the support!
And i will definately put this into effect once i have all of my research finished and when my job starts in a few months.
If you would liek to check out what ive recorded so far, i would appreciate the oversight of a proffesional.
You dont have to if you dont want to i am just happy you gave me my answers and support

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BjC ... CdHaQ/view
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Re: No Polution

Postby jimw1949 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:01 pm

I suspect this is a project that could potentially get pretty expensive before it reaches the point where you have a working prototype. It would help if you were a machinist, or know someone who is, and can have that person assist you with designing and making the parts you need. I have no idea just what parts would need to be made special, but if there are any and if you have to hire everything done, it could get rather expensive. Obviously, if the idea works out and you are able to sell the idea, then money probably wouldn't be a problem. But initially it could pose a serious problem and it could hamper your ability to complete your research and development. R & D is seldom cheap and you may need to experiment with several different designs until you hit upon just the right way to do it. If you think you can make this work, I say give it a shot. It may prove to be too costly, or it may not last long enough to be practical, but you won't know for sure until you try.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:39 pm

Engines run in my family. I do know a few proffesional mechanists in my family and a i know a deal about it too. And in the near few weeks i will be making about 200$ a week and an entire cartrage of soda lime costs about 70$ and i understand the expenses. I may not be able to build a working prototype for a long time, but soon when i get my job i will be goign all-out on my engineering projects and money shouldnt be a big problem. But i do appreciate that you are bringing this to my attention because i am nto very good with spending haha
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Re: No Polution

Postby bobodu » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:43 am

It emits calcium bicarbonate ?????

OMG...you will be putting millions and millions of tons of CARBON into the soil and calcium bicarbonate is what cause hard water!!!!! :o :o :o
There is a consensus that millions and millions of tons of calcium bicarbonate will turn everyone's pips into clogged arteries !!! Think of the poor children who just want a drink of water.
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:42 am

I dont think you quite understand my theory. And the iten that i will be making will have been improved from now also
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Re: No Polution

Postby jimw1949 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:09 pm

It sounds like you have a plan for doing this project, that's a good thing. I wish you all the best. If this idea takes off and you become incredibly wealthy, don't forget about us little guys who encouraged you. :lol:
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Re: No Polution

Postby TheWingnutSquid » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:56 pm

I do like th sound of that! And dont worry i definately wont forget :lol2:
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